These are highlights from an interview between Shane Parrish (Farnham Street) and Dr. Sue Johnson.
The full interview
is available here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ws-4Oy0ongU
Dr. Sue
Johnson is a researcher, clinical psychologist, and the developer of
Emotionally Focused Therapy. In this interview, they discuss how to create, protect, and nourish fulfilling sexual and
emotional relationships.
In this discussion, they walk through the life cycle of
human relationships, from early infatuation to dating, marriage, and beyond
while taking short detours to explore many of the hazards that are common in
each stage.
Sue talks about finding, sparking and rekindling connection
with our partner, why emotional responsiveness is critical to a healthy
relationship, and she shares the recipe to a great sex life that all the
popular online and magazine articles are missing.
Here are a few highlights from their conversation:
Many of us have no idea. We don’t know what
we’re looking for. We just don’t want to be lonely anymore and we want somebody
to have fun with and we want someone to have sex with. We’re caught up in the
society thing of girls are supposed to look like this and guys are supposed to
look like that.
What I’ve always tried to tell my children is, you can be
attracted to lots of people in a very superficial way and you’re going
to experiment with relationships, you are, because you have to get to know this
dance, and you’re going to make mistakes. But what you really need to do is
listen to yourself and listen to when you feel safe and when dancing with
someone is easy and makes you feel good, and when you can be vulnerable for a
moment and that person tunes in and cares about your vulnerability. That’s the
person to go with.
Of course, things go wrong and they fight, they hurt each
other and that’s a relationship. If you dance with somebody, they’re
going to step on your feet. They’re going to go left when you expect them to go
right. It’s just the way it is. The point is, in a good relationship, you can
recognize what’s happened and you can tune in and you can repair it. It’s
emotional responsiveness. That’s the basis of a secure bond.
Emotional isolation is traumatizing for human beings. You’re
not wired for it. It’s a danger cue for your nervous system.
Attachment tends to be hierarchical. We can love
more than one person, but in terms of who you turn to when you really need, in
terms of where you take your vulnerability, it’s usually hierarchical. We have
our special one and most people want to be the special one for somebody else,
and most people want a special one. That’s the person that you turn to.
Distressed relationships are always the same all over the
world at every age. Where are you? Where are you? Do you care about
me? Do I matter to you? Will you respond to me? Will you be there when I’m
vulnerable? Am I safe with you? Where are you? Where are you? And when the
answer is, “I’m here,” you can deal with almost anything.
Emotional responsiveness is an abstract word that
captures a lot. It’s the ability or the willingness that someone has
to tune into emotionally and to allow themselves to tune into your non-verbals
or your words, and to allow themselves to feel what you’re feeling and who
respond to that in a way that you feel that you matter.
You’re more vulnerable to the person you love than anyone
in the world; That’s part of being in love. On the other hand, if it’s
a good relationship, you’re safer with this person than anywhere else in the
world. That’s the paradox of love.
Relationships are live things. They’re live
moving organisms, and they’re like every other live thing. If you starve them
of attention, and ignore them, and leave them on a shelf for years, then you
turn around and try to pick them off the shelf, well, I’m sorry, but they’ve
shriveled and died.
The best thing you can give your children is
parents who know how to support each other and stand together and help each
other. Not only that, but you give your children something more valuable by
doing that. You give your children a vision of what a good relationship looks
like.
Dr. Sue Johnson (Dr.Sue Johnson), a clinical psychologist
and the developer of EFT or Emotionally Focused Couple Therapy. The EFT model
is considered to be one of the most effective evidence-based therapy methods
available and is currently taught to over 3000 health care professionals every
year. Countless couples’ relationships have been repaired and strengthened
because of Sue’s work.
Sue is also the author of several books, including Love
Sense and her breakout bestseller, Hold Me Tight: Seven Conversations for a
Lifetime of Love, which is hands down the best relationship book I’ve ever
read.
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